Rise, Resilience, and Career Comebacks with Kelvin B Henry
with Kelvin B Henry
Show notes
This conversation is a faith-forward career discussion with Kelvin B Henry, whose background spans the military, Procter & Gamble, PepsiCo, ministry, and coaching. He and Jacqueline Twillie reflect on mentorship, career reinvention, layoffs, AI disruption, and the personal adversity that shaped his book Rise.Kelvin shares the framework behind Rise and how it helped him process setbacks, a cancer diagnosis, and seasons of discouragement.
The episode is especially useful for anyone navigating career transition, seeking resilience, or trying to make sense of what comes next.
Key topics
- Kelvin B Henry’s path from the University of Florida to the military, then into Procter & Gamble and PepsiCo
- A full-circle mentoring story where Kelvin helped Jacqueline prepare for her first major interview
- What it takes to succeed in Fortune 25 environments: planning, organization, collaboration, integrity, and results
- Why reputation becomes your brand in corporate America and how others may see strengths before you do
- The origin of the RISE framework as a response to adversity rather than theory
- The childhood football story that helped reveal Kelvin’s identity as an encourager
- How RISE applies to cancer, job loss, and other disruptions through recognition, reframing, information, strength, and execution
- Why AI should be approached as a tool and accelerator, not a reason for fear
- Guidance for listeners facing layoffs, especially those experiencing it for the first time
- The importance of taking daily, practical action when rebuilding after a setback
Quotes from Kelvin Henry:
- “If you’re still breathing, God is still building.”
- “Faith doesn’t remove the adversity, it helps reframe it.”
- “Your comeback from any setback is literally just around the corner.”
Chapters
(00:00) Opening prayer and introduction of Kelvin B Henry
(01:58) Jacqueline introduces Kelvin’s background and career achievements
(03:23) Greek life, shared connections, and the long friendship between guest and host
(04:13) The mentorship story that helped shape Jacqueline’s early career
(06:57) Why Kelvin’s career took him from military service to Louisiana
(09:01) Forty years of marriage and meeting his wife at the University of Florida
(10:00) What it takes to thrive in Fortune 25 companies
(12:27) Reputation, personal brand, and the importance of resilience
(14:26) The backstory behind the RISE framework
(16:14) The childhood football setback that revealed Kelvin’s encourager identity
(17:55) How Rise became a book meant to help others recover with purpose
(22:15) Cancer diagnosis, fear, and learning to surrender the moment
(23:22) Recognize, inform, strengthen, execute: applying RISE to health challenges
(26:45) How to think about AI without panic or avoidance
(30:06) Why internal work comes before external movement
(31:19) Advice for listeners facing layoffs in a difficult job market
(34:52) Encouragement to read Rise as a group and apply the framework together
(35:41) Kelvin’s closing reminder that God still writes comebacks
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In "Rise, Resilience, and Career Comebacks with Kelvin B Henry," Kelvin tells listeners facing a first layoff to separate feelings from facts, recognize the reality of a competitive market, and execute daily. In his words: "Make it your mission that you're going to be your own recruiter." He calls AI an accelerator. Jacqueline V. Twillie turns it into steps with her R4 framework.
This is for mid-career professionals who were just laid off, who are watching layoffs around them, or who hit a setback and want a practical order of operations for the first weeks. It also fits anyone who hears "AI" and "job market" in the same sentence and wants a small, doable way to use the tool.
How to Take the First Practical Steps When You Are Laid Off or Hit a Setback
In the episode, Kelvin shares his RISE framework: Recognize reality, Inform yourself, Strengthen from within, and Execute. He applies it to a layoff and to AI. The six steps below are Jacqueline's own sequence, built on her R4 framework, for the first weeks after a layoff or setback. They are not a recap of Kelvin's framework. His quotes are marked as his, and the sample lines are sample lines, not quotes from the episode.
1.Write down what the setback put at risk, and what it did not touch
Take ten minutes with a page. On the left, list what is now exposed: income runway, benefits end dates, title, the daily structure of your week. On the right, list what is still yours: your skills, your results, your relationships, your reputation. On the episode, Kelvin tells first-time layoff listeners that being without a job can produce anxiety and other feelings, and then says: "the feelings aren't facts." R4 starts with naming the Risk plainly, and two columns keep the facts apart from the feelings.
Sample line you can adapt: Here is what changed, and here is what did not.
2.Do the inside work before you send anything outside
On the episode, Kelvin says the first three phases of RISE are internal and the fourth, Execute, is where the internal work becomes external. He adds: "you can't move forward or take action without first having clarity." In this playbook, the inside work is four short answers on paper before you update a resume or message a recruiter: what kind of role you want next, what you would say no to, the number you need, and your story in three sentences.
Sample line you can adapt: I'm looking for a [role] where I can [result], and I'm not considering [what you would turn down].
3.Read the paperwork, then prepare the severance or offer conversation
If you were given severance terms, read every page and write down the dates, the amounts, and what you are being asked to sign. Then prepare with L.A.T.T.E.: Look at the details, Anticipate the challenges, Think about your walk-away point, Talk it through, Evaluate. A negotiation prep AI agent can organize those five stages and draft the lines you will say out loud. For anything legal, ask a lawyer. The AI agent prepares you. It does not advise you on the law.
Sample line you can adapt: Before I sign, I'd like to confirm the end date, the amount, and my benefits timeline in writing.
4.Choose one daily practical action and put it on your calendar
Pick one action small enough to finish every day: one conversation, one tailored application, one hour on a skill, one follow-up. Put it at the same time for five days. Kelvin says to execute daily, and he passes along a line he credits to John Maxwell: "a small step forward or action is better than the largest intention." In R4 terms this is the Resilience move, the steady hold between the setback and the payoff, where showing up counts more than any single day's result.
Sample line you can adapt: Today's one thing: send two messages to people who have worked with me.
5.Use AI as a tool on one task a day
On the episode, Kelvin says to recognize that "AI is an accelerator," to be honest about where your skills are, and to get with trusted sources who know AI and your industry. Pick one task you already do in the search, such as tailoring a resume, drafting a follow-up, or prepping for a call, and hand the first draft to an AI agent. You read it, you change it, and you send it. A Chief of Staff AI agent can hold your list of open items and give you a daily brief.
Sample line you can adapt: Give me today's brief.
6.Reset once a week and write down the Reward
Once a week, look at what your daily actions produced: which messages got replies, which applications went somewhere, which conversations helped. Keep the goal and change the method on whatever did not land. That is Reset in R4. Then write down what you learned and what you can now do that you could not do a month ago. That record is the Reward, and it is what makes the next hard thing feel possible.
Sample line you can adapt: This week I learned [one thing], so next week I'm changing [one thing].
R4 is Jacqueline's Resilient Leadership Framework: Risk, Resilience, Reset, Reward. This page uses it to put the first weeks after a setback in order: name the Risk, hold steady with a daily action, Reset the method each week, and write down the Reward. RISE is a separate framework from Kelvin's book Rise: Recognize reality, Inform yourself, Strengthen from within, Execute. In his words on the episode: "Without the R, which is recognize reality, there's nothing to rise from." This page does not map R4 onto RISE. R4
Build this episode's AI agent in one hour
For the daily practical action after a setback, Jacqueline teaches the Chief of Staff AI agent in a one-hour build on Gumloop, no code. If you have a severance or an offer to prepare for, she also teaches a negotiation prep AI agent built on L.A.T.T.E. Jacqueline is a Gumloop ambassador and earns a referral if you stay on after the 14-day trial. The trial asks for a card at sign-up, so put day 14 on your calendar.
Paste in three to five real open items
List what is on your plate this week: a reply you owe, an application due, a person to thank, the date your benefits end, a call to prep. Paste the list into the chat. Connecting Gmail and Google Calendar is optional.
Upload the instruction file and ask for the brief
Download chief-of-staff-agent.md from the build guide, create an AI agent in Gumloop, upload the file as its instructions, and turn on Self-Improving Instructions. Then ask: "Give me today's brief." It returns today's calendar, the emails that need a reply with a drafted reply for each, and your open loops, named plainly.
Let the open loops set your daily action
Read the open loops and pick the one overdue item you will do today. That becomes the daily practical action from step four of the playbook. Correct the AI agent once, in one sentence, when a draft sounds unlike you.
Prepare a severance or offer conversation with the negotiation prep AI agent
When a severance term or a new offer needs a response, build the negotiation prep AI agent from the Sistas In Sales follow-along page. It works through L.A.T.T.E., gives you Target, Acceptable, and Walk-away numbers, and drafts the three lines you will say out loud.
The AI agent drafts, and you decide and send; it never sends an email, deletes anything, or accepts an invite for you.
Build a Chief of Staff and a Content Manager AI AgentQuestions, answered
What does Kelvin B Henry say to do after a first layoff?
In "Rise, Resilience, and Career Comebacks with Kelvin B Henry," Kelvin tells listeners facing a layoff for the first time to stay encouraged and to separate feelings from facts. He says to recognize that the market is competitive, learn to interview differently, send the emails, apply to the jobs you qualify for, and network with talent acquisition teams. Then he says: "Make it your mission that you're going to be your own recruiter." Jacqueline V. Twillie's six-step playbook on this page turns that direction into a weekly routine built on her R4 framework.
What is the RISE framework in the Kelvin B Henry episode?
RISE is the framework from Kelvin B Henry's book Rise, discussed in the Winning Season episode "Rise, Resilience, and Career Comebacks with Kelvin B Henry." He describes the steps as Recognize reality, Inform yourself, Strengthen from within, and Execute. Kelvin says: "The RISE framework for me is more of a testimony than it is theory." He says it was forged in adversity, and that the first three phases are internal while Execute is where the internal work becomes external. He applies it to a layoff and to AI.
Is R4 the same as RISE?
No. R4 is the Resilient Leadership Framework created by Jacqueline V. Twillie: Risk, Resilience, Reset, and Reward. RISE is Kelvin B Henry's framework from his book Rise: Recognize reality, Inform yourself, Strengthen from within, and Execute. He walks through it in the episode "Rise, Resilience, and Career Comebacks with Kelvin B Henry." Both address how to move through a setback, and they are separate tools from separate authors. The playbook on this page uses R4 to sequence the first steps after a layoff, and it does not claim that the two line up step for step.
How does Kelvin B Henry say to think about AI?
In "Rise, Resilience, and Career Comebacks with Kelvin B Henry," Kelvin applies his RISE framework to AI. He says to recognize that AI is an accelerator and here to stay, to be honest about your skills, and to be informed by facts, not fiction. He compares it to "the typewriter versus the word processor." He says to learn it and not be afraid of it, and to get with trusted sources who know AI and your industry. Jacqueline V. Twillie teaches a one-hour Chief of Staff AI agent build. It drafts, and you decide and send.
Who is Kelvin B Henry?
Kelvin B Henry is the guest on Winning Season episode "Rise, Resilience, and Career Comebacks with Kelvin B Henry" (Season 26, Episode 11) and the author of Rise. Jacqueline V. Twillie introduces him on the episode as a leader with decades of management experience at Procter and Gamble, PepsiCo, and Nabisco, plus military service, ministry, and nonprofit board governance. She also tells the story of her first big interview, for which Kelvin typed and printed prep tips; she carried two sheets of paper in a portfolio through her 20s and early 30s.
Jacqueline V. Twillie is a negotiation strategist, three-time bestselling author, and the creator of the L.A.T.T.E. negotiation framework. Forbes named Winning Season one of the 12 must-listen leadership podcasts for women.
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